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In a ideal world should everyone get paid the same ammount per hour for the job they do?
or do you believe some people are worth more? Please explain why you think this is a good or bad idea.
Supplement from 06/08/2008 11:41am:
forgot to say I am making the assumption that in an "ideal world" surly training would be free to those who wanted to do a trade for the love of a job.

asked in jobs, wages, worth



wumpus answers:

Bad idea!

Why would anybody train for years to become a doctor, dentist, or any other skilled profession, when they could earn the same working as a street sweeper?

Actually the street sweeper would earn more, because they'd be earning while the doctor is still training...


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rasputin1309 answers:

No one starts off in life worthmore than anyone else - however, how they develop clearly has an impact on how much they are "worth". People should not all be paid the same - equally jobs are all worth different things - the ease with which I could become a roadsweeper makes it infinitely less "valuable" than the difficulty that I would face in becoming a vet or doctor. The sad thing is that some jobs which are worth diddly squat end up earning their employees zillions - anything in the City for example - what on earth do they do that is productive other than line their own pockets - now news has reached us that much of the rise in oil prices is due to city speculation rather than supply difficulties. City workers disoplay such awful parasitic tendencies.


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robinsamuels answers:

Training being available free is irrelevent. The level of ability required to some jobs is so much greater than to do others.

I spent a month in Cuba last year. The taxi drivers earn more than the doctors, a crazy situation. But, I have never been to a country where I felt more relaxed and comfortable, even in the roughest part of town. Also, the attitude of the people was great, I'm pretty sure that all of those who aren't happy have already left. There is a great feeling of national pride, something lacking in most countries.

Is a brain surgeon worth more than the cleaner who cleans the OR? Our system at the moment says that he is, but look at all the fuss over cleaning standards in hospitals. The cleaner, through lack of care, can kill a patient far easier than most doctors in the hospital!


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hdtg answers:

I dont think an hour of one persons life is worth any more or any less than anothers. its no good having brain surgeons without the builders to construct the hospitals, the cleaners to clean them, the theatre staff, the people who assemble all the electronic equiptment, the roadworkers who ensure he/ she can get to work and so the list goes on.
When a person works for a wage they are selling their life to someone else for someone elses benefit. Nobodys life is of greater or lesser value.
People would still train to be doctors or other needed professionals if they earned as everyone else did while training (which I think would be fair as they would be trainning to perform a needed service.)


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KentPDG answers:

Why is that ideal? Sounds grossly unfair to me, and it is a sure de-motivator for one to become more skillful and more productive.

There may be some jobs where the actions are repetitive and the rate of action is controlled by the machinery -- such as filling cartons with bottles coming off a packaging line. In that case, all of the carton-fillers would be doing the same work at the same pace, and there would be some argument for paying all of them the same wage. but even then, there would be no recognition or reward for having done the job, perhaps for years, to differentiate one employee from another.

Unions of course force wage contracts such that all workers in a given job are paid the same; but there are always different worker grades in such jobs, with different pay rates. People advance from one grade to the next based on merit, or on seniority. And often, there are productivity bonuses put into the union pay scales, so that the best workers can get paid more for higher output.

There are lots of jobs where people are paid on piecework rates. Everyone is doing the same task, but some do it much faster than others. For example, I used to have a large apple orchard. All the pickers got so many cents per bushel picked. Those who worked slowly didn't make much money. Those who picked apples with both hands, and scurried up and down the ladders, and hustled over to their bin each time their basket got filled, would make a lot of money.

The opportunity to be paid more, because one works harder or is a better producer, is an enormous motivation for workers. Taking that away from them, by having uniform pay for all, destroys any possiblity that th e work force will ever improve.


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